Landscaping & Pool

[Bill Patterson]

Attached Options are supplied by:

Cathy Matgen
[e-mail]
6118 Ascot Drive
Oakland, CA 94611
510-530-6612 office
510-332-1581 cell
gardenswestdesigns.com

[Tim Haley]

I like it Cathy - Nice job :).   Megan, Bill and Scott should still review it though.

[Catherine Matgen]

Here is a version of the plan with gravel area around the fire pit.The city likes this... I also have included a prefabricated fire pit for the function of being able to move it as it is somewhat over the setback line and they like that aspect of it not being permanent??? So... I've shifted the pool down as low as it can go to make enough room for it all and I still love the design. Made a little more space for chairs, added another section of floating concrete coping. The stepping stones through the vegetable area had to go too, they were too big for the city. The other stones can have synthetic turf between and they will wear well. We could even add that synthetic turf around the fire pit but let's discuss our options for upgrade after we get through the completed addition of the ADU. ;) Thanks everyone!

Patterson 3.0 2:2019.pdf

[Tim Haley]

Adding this e-mail conversation:

CATHERINE MATGEN	Jan 24, 2019, 6:43 PM (22 hours ago)
to me, Megan, [e-mail]

Thanks Tim,

Here they are. The pool has been widened because we can!

I have 2 copies, one with a bating cage bocce area and the other for for the city and a Black and White one for easy copy. 

One thing I was looking for in placing the pool equipment was the gas meter, not sure where it’s located. I couldn’t find it on the plans, but I can go onsite to find it. Equipment might change location if it’s not convenient. 

I can send a DWG if you like as well.

Thanks again

Cathy

Scott White <[e-mail]>	Jan 24, 2019, 7:09 PM (21 hours ago)
to CATHERINE, me, Megan

Looks great!

The pool equipment works well here. It’s about 20’ from the gas service and electric service that are located on the left front corner of the house. (See attached)

 

scott

Tim Haley	5:09 PM (0 minutes ago)
to Vince, Scott, CATHERINE, Megan

Hi Cathy,

Nice job and I like both versions (either with or without the bating cage bocce area).

I added the e-mail conversation to our thread (see below) and copied Vince (Civil Engineer on this).  Link Below --->>

Landscaping & Pool

I added the PDFs to the site and it would be great to have the DWG as well so Vince can use it for his plans.

Thanks

Tim Haley 
Architect - AIA

[Tim Haley]

Hi Catherine - Agree'd per your comment below.   I spoke to the Civil Engineer yesterday and went over how the C-3i will need to be modified since we are adding more hard surfaces (which will mean we will likely need more planting area to treat the storm water.   We also talked about a possible rain water capture system that can then be used for irrigation later.   He mentioned that the existing conditions don't match his irrigation plan and I asked him to call Scott to coordinate on this (both of which both Scott and I knew - since he mentioned this at the beginning of the project).

Catherine Matgen said:

As for the grading, I think that would be between the pool contractor and the building contractor to coordinate setting grades and drainage. I can be involved in the layout, soil amendment, Irrigation, lighting and planting side of the installation. Rock walls and terracing is fine for me too as well as Vegetable garden and possible batting cage or bocce installation but the areas involved with the pool and ADU should be handled by others.

[Catherine Matgen]

Tim Haley said:

I agree with you Bill - I think poured concrete is more timeless and neutral while Bluestone maybe nice - it makes a statement that locks you into a particular aesthetic look.   Undoubtedly the poured concrete is also less expensive.

[Catherine Matgen]

Hi Bill and Tim,

I think the concrete will keep the areas calmer. We have 3 strong materials now with the pavers, the veneer, and the limestone in the Loggia. Using concrete, in a warm grey like the limestone, and additional pavers for accent to tie it all in would blend well. 

I think if we did add Bluestone to the garden then we may want to change out other materials. If we were to go with Bluestone I’d add as the pool coping and I would change out the Loggia to repeat bluestone in there and still keep the concrete pads around the pool. This will be best for the permeable area totals.

As for the grading, I think that would be between the pool contractor and the building contractor to coordinate setting grades and drainage. I can be involved in the layout, soil amendment, Irrigation, lighting and planting side of the installation. Rock walls and terracing is fine for me too as well as Vegetable garden and possible batting cage or bocce installation but the areas involved with the pool and ADU should be handled by others.

Thanks! I'll upload some drawings later this evening.

Bill Patterson said:

Picture of the poured concrete

Bill Patterson said:

Picture of Bluestone cording

Bill Patterson said:

We had a chance to meet with Riviera pools on Friday (we liked them). 

One of the biggest decisions we will have to make is in the cording around the pool.  Cathy,  we were wondering if you had thoughts/ideas on either:  Poured concrete or Capped Bluestone for the cording?  We tended to like the poured concrete look, while Tony from Riviera really liked the Bluestone look.  I figured I would post here and check with the experts :)

Also, regarding timing - Riviera indicated that they could start as soon as a March 1 and that they typically do the grading for the yard.   Cathy,  would you be the one coordinating the pool/hardscape grading along with the needs of the ADU?  Just curious as to how this runs.  

[Tim Haley]

I agree with you Bill - I think poured concrete is more timeless and neutral while Bluestone maybe nice - it makes a statement that locks you into a particular aesthetic look.   Undoubtedly the poured concrete is also less expensive.

[Bill Patterson]

Picture of the poured concrete

Bill Patterson said:

Picture of Bluestone cording

Bill Patterson said:

We had a chance to meet with Riviera pools on Friday (we liked them). 

One of the biggest decisions we will have to make is in the cording around the pool.  Cathy,  we were wondering if you had thoughts/ideas on either:  Poured concrete or Capped Bluestone for the cording?  We tended to like the poured concrete look, while Tony from Riviera really liked the Bluestone look.  I figured I would post here and check with the experts :)

Also, regarding timing - Riviera indicated that they could start as soon as a March 1 and that they typically do the grading for the yard.   Cathy,  would you be the one coordinating the pool/hardscape grading along with the needs of the ADU?  Just curious as to how this runs.  

[Bill Patterson]

Picture of Bluestone cording

Bill Patterson said:

We had a chance to meet with Riviera pools on Friday (we liked them). 

One of the biggest decisions we will have to make is in the cording around the pool.  Cathy,  we were wondering if you had thoughts/ideas on either:  Poured concrete or Capped Bluestone for the cording?  We tended to like the poured concrete look, while Tony from Riviera really liked the Bluestone look.  I figured I would post here and check with the experts :)

Also, regarding timing - Riviera indicated that they could start as soon as a March 1 and that they typically do the grading for the yard.   Cathy,  would you be the one coordinating the pool/hardscape grading along with the needs of the ADU?  Just curious as to how this runs.  

[Bill Patterson]

We had a chance to meet with Riviera pools on Friday (we liked them). 

One of the biggest decisions we will have to make is in the cording around the pool.  Cathy,  we were wondering if you had thoughts/ideas on either:  Poured concrete or Capped Bluestone for the cording?  We tended to like the poured concrete look, while Tony from Riviera really liked the Bluestone look.  I figured I would post here and check with the experts :)

Also, regarding timing - Riviera indicated that they could start as soon as a March 1 and that they typically do the grading for the yard.   Cathy,  would you be the one coordinating the pool/hardscape grading along with the needs of the ADU?  Just curious as to how this runs.